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	<description>Web programmer and new media developer Steve Magruder expresses his views and welcomes feedback on web community building, contemporary web development practices, and his media business</description>
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		<title>Comment on Is H.R. 1981, the Data Retention bill, really a bad idea? by Matthew Flaschen</title>
		<link>http://www.webcommons.biz/2012/02/03/is-h-r-1981-the-data-retention-bill-really-a-bad-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-449</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Flaschen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 02:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I strongly disagree.  I&#039;ll take your points one by one:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1. ISPs do retain data for a limited time for legitimate purposes, but this should be way less than a year.  ISPs should probably be able to use their due diligence in determining the minimum.  It should be enough to catch smoking gun crimes, and beyond that a matter for the marketplace.  I&#039;d tend to prefer the ISPs (where I can vote with my wallet) decide this, than the government mandate it from on high.  Spammers usually change their IPs and often ISPs far more often than yearly, so the extra time can not be justified on these grounds.,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;2. I can see an argument for a short legal minimum for certain data, but it should be far less than a year.  Frankly, after SOPA I don&#039;t trust Rep. Lamar Smith to come up with the right figure.  Nor do I think now is the time to rush into it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;3/4. The burden of proof for a search is not as strong as you think.  You don&#039;t need the calibre of evidence you would need for a trial, or even very close to it.  Worse, as far as I know this information would also be available via subpoena in civil trials.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Also, what if someone simply cracks the data? The bill has &lt;em&gt;no&lt;/em&gt; requirements for data security, or for notification in case of a breach.  Don&#039;t be misled by the Sense of the Congress text, since this is entirely non-binding (i.e. meaningless).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Finally, you didn&#039;t address the fact that it requires retention of multiple categories of data beyond name and IP, from credit card and bank numbers, to addresses.  A proposed amendment to limit the categories failed, showing that this is about far more than tracking the name of a child pornographer or spammer.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I also think we should be deeply skeptical given the misleading sell.  You may not know this if you only looked at the EFF email.  However, it&#039;s titled &quot;&lt;em&gt;Protecting Children From Internet Pornographers Act of 2011&lt;/em&gt;&quot;.  As you realize, though, the law is primarily about data retention, not fighting child pornography.  When someone tells me to vote for &quot;Motherhood and Apple Pie&quot;, I ask what&#039;s in the pie.  A re-written (and significantly limited) bill openly addressing &lt;em&gt;limited&lt;/em&gt; data retention would be somewhat different.  Note that there are parts of H.R. 1981 genuinely specific to child pornography (e.g. changing the maximum prison sentence).  These deserve a debate on their own behalf, without being muddled with data retention.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I strongly disagree.  I&#8217;ll take your points one by one:</p>
<p>1. ISPs do retain data for a limited time for legitimate purposes, but this should be way less than a year.  ISPs should probably be able to use their due diligence in determining the minimum.  It should be enough to catch smoking gun crimes, and beyond that a matter for the marketplace.  I&#8217;d tend to prefer the ISPs (where I can vote with my wallet) decide this, than the government mandate it from on high.  Spammers usually change their IPs and often ISPs far more often than yearly, so the extra time can not be justified on these grounds.,</p>
<p>2. I can see an argument for a short legal minimum for certain data, but it should be far less than a year.  Frankly, after SOPA I don&#8217;t trust Rep. Lamar Smith to come up with the right figure.  Nor do I think now is the time to rush into it.</p>
<p>3/4. The burden of proof for a search is not as strong as you think.  You don&#8217;t need the calibre of evidence you would need for a trial, or even very close to it.  Worse, as far as I know this information would also be available via subpoena in civil trials.</p>
<p>Also, what if someone simply cracks the data? The bill has <em>no</em> requirements for data security, or for notification in case of a breach.  Don&#8217;t be misled by the Sense of the Congress text, since this is entirely non-binding (i.e. meaningless).</p>
<p>Finally, you didn&#8217;t address the fact that it requires retention of multiple categories of data beyond name and IP, from credit card and bank numbers, to addresses.  A proposed amendment to limit the categories failed, showing that this is about far more than tracking the name of a child pornographer or spammer.</p>
<p>I also think we should be deeply skeptical given the misleading sell.  You may not know this if you only looked at the EFF email.  However, it&#8217;s titled &#8220;<em>Protecting Children From Internet Pornographers Act of 2011</em>&#8220;.  As you realize, though, the law is primarily about data retention, not fighting child pornography.  When someone tells me to vote for &#8220;Motherhood and Apple Pie&#8221;, I ask what&#8217;s in the pie.  A re-written (and significantly limited) bill openly addressing <em>limited</em> data retention would be somewhat different.  Note that there are parts of H.R. 1981 genuinely specific to child pornography (e.g. changing the maximum prison sentence).  These deserve a debate on their own behalf, without being muddled with data retention.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Taking Nominations for the 2012 WebCommons Spambot Awards &#8211; The First Annual Spambotties by Steve Magruder</title>
		<link>http://www.webcommons.biz/2012/01/15/taking-nominations-for-the-2012-webcommons-spambot-awards-the-first-annual-spambotties/comment-page-1/#comment-446</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Magruder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 22:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello everyone.  I&#039;m posting a comment to see if posting is actually working, as no replies have been forthcoming yet.

Jump in, the water&#039;s fine!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello everyone.  I&#8217;m posting a comment to see if posting is actually working, as no replies have been forthcoming yet.</p>
<p>Jump in, the water&#8217;s fine!</p>
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		<title>Comment on UPDATE: TERRIBLE NEWS. WebCommons site Louisville History &amp; Issues was just taken down indefinitely by a SOPA REQUEST. by ZihuaRob</title>
		<link>http://www.webcommons.biz/2011/11/30/terrible-news-webcommons-site-louisville-history-issues-was-just-taken-down-indefinitely-by-a-sopa-request/comment-page-1/#comment-438</link>
		<dc:creator>ZihuaRob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 16:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent, Steve! So right you are!

For over 10 years I battled in local Mexican courts with a US citizen who tried to steal my business including the websites I made. He managed to convince Network Solutions to go against their published policies and cede him control of several of my domain names, but I bought more and put m websites back on them. Then he tried stealing the websites. The worst he could do was copy them and benefit monetarily from my work. The Digital Milennium Copyright Act proved just about worthless, but I didn&#039;t worry. I just kept doing what I do best and I prevailed. Perhaps if the entertainment industry concentrated on producing quality instead of mind-numbing quantity of garbage their sales wouldn&#039;t be suffering. Any free music I download from the &#039;net is usually something I paid for back in the 60&#039;s and 70&#039;s at least once. ;~)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent, Steve! So right you are!</p>
<p>For over 10 years I battled in local Mexican courts with a US citizen who tried to steal my business including the websites I made. He managed to convince Network Solutions to go against their published policies and cede him control of several of my domain names, but I bought more and put m websites back on them. Then he tried stealing the websites. The worst he could do was copy them and benefit monetarily from my work. The Digital Milennium Copyright Act proved just about worthless, but I didn&#8217;t worry. I just kept doing what I do best and I prevailed. Perhaps if the entertainment industry concentrated on producing quality instead of mind-numbing quantity of garbage their sales wouldn&#8217;t be suffering. Any free music I download from the &#8216;net is usually something I paid for back in the 60&#8242;s and 70&#8242;s at least once. ;~)</p>
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		<title>Comment on WebCommons back from hiatus on June 15! by Lisa Mann</title>
		<link>http://www.webcommons.biz/2010/06/13/webcommons-back-from-hiatus-on-june-15/comment-page-1/#comment-244</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Mann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 21:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too have recently moved during a 5 month work hiatus - nice battery recharge! I&#039;m just migrating over to a Word Press theme and have been blogging about 2 - 3 days a week. Watching my rankings climb :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too have recently moved during a 5 month work hiatus &#8211; nice battery recharge! I&#8217;m just migrating over to a Word Press theme and have been blogging about 2 &#8211; 3 days a week. Watching my rankings climb <img src='http://www.webcommons.biz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on The WebCommons philosophy of web design, and a &#8220;formula for website health&#8221; by Steve Magruder</title>
		<link>http://www.webcommons.biz/2009/12/04/the-webcommons-philosophy-of-web-design-and-a-formula-for-website-health/comment-page-1/#comment-202</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Magruder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 21:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul, thank you very much for the idea.  That&#039;s definitely a great topic to write a post about, and I do plan on expanding upon various aspects of this post.  I just wanted to lay out my design philosophy in a very straightforward way for easy absorption, as my audience is web design clients in addition to web designers.

Like many aspects of design, eye control is something I think about nearly constantly.  It&#039;s also something talked about fairly regularly on web usability sites.  I have gotten the most interesting information from reading &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.useit.com/eyetracking/&quot; title=&quot;Jakob Neilsen - Eyetracking Research&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jakob Nielsen&#039;s ideas and views on the subject&lt;/a&gt;.

That reminds me... I need to add his site to my &quot;Favorite Web Dev Sites&quot; link list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul, thank you very much for the idea.  That&#8217;s definitely a great topic to write a post about, and I do plan on expanding upon various aspects of this post.  I just wanted to lay out my design philosophy in a very straightforward way for easy absorption, as my audience is web design clients in addition to web designers.</p>
<p>Like many aspects of design, eye control is something I think about nearly constantly.  It&#8217;s also something talked about fairly regularly on web usability sites.  I have gotten the most interesting information from reading <a href="http://www.useit.com/eyetracking/" title="Jakob Neilsen - Eyetracking Research" rel="nofollow">Jakob Nielsen&#8217;s ideas and views on the subject</a>.</p>
<p>That reminds me&#8230; I need to add his site to my &#8220;Favorite Web Dev Sites&#8221; link list.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The WebCommons philosophy of web design, and a &#8220;formula for website health&#8221; by Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.webcommons.biz/2009/12/04/the-webcommons-philosophy-of-web-design-and-a-formula-for-website-health/comment-page-1/#comment-201</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 02:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could you blog about &quot;Eye Control&quot; and it&#039;s methods? Maybe give a few more examples?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could you blog about &#8220;Eye Control&#8221; and it&#8217;s methods? Maybe give a few more examples?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Registration no longer required before commenting by Work group collaboration</title>
		<link>http://www.webcommons.biz/2009/01/13/registration-no-longer-required-before-commenting/comment-page-1/#comment-189</link>
		<dc:creator>Work group collaboration</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 06:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey there...Nice post

It is true that pam blocking mechanisms in WordPress are pretty strong.

You took right decision...I appreciate your work..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey there&#8230;Nice post</p>
<p>It is true that pam blocking mechanisms in WordPress are pretty strong.</p>
<p>You took right decision&#8230;I appreciate your work..</p>
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		<title>Comment on Registration no longer required before commenting by Digitalmalay</title>
		<link>http://www.webcommons.biz/2009/01/13/registration-no-longer-required-before-commenting/comment-page-1/#comment-187</link>
		<dc:creator>Digitalmalay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 04:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you.Perhaps it encourage people to comment.For example, me..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you.Perhaps it encourage people to comment.For example, me..</p>
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		<title>Comment on Registration no longer required before commenting by newsupermusic richard fuchs</title>
		<link>http://www.webcommons.biz/2009/01/13/registration-no-longer-required-before-commenting/comment-page-1/#comment-182</link>
		<dc:creator>newsupermusic richard fuchs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 11:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i´m an internet newbie - to register or not to register is not so the question for me, for me the question is: are there any interesting informations for me on a website or not and this here seems to be a very interesting and positive website and in my opinion such a feedback is important for website owners, so that they can imagine, what people are thinking about their websites!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i´m an internet newbie &#8211; to register or not to register is not so the question for me, for me the question is: are there any interesting informations for me on a website or not and this here seems to be a very interesting and positive website and in my opinion such a feedback is important for website owners, so that they can imagine, what people are thinking about their websites!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Clarification: I am a full-time freelance programmer by auctionSA</title>
		<link>http://www.webcommons.biz/2008/11/13/clarification-i-am-a-full-time-freelance-programmer/comment-page-1/#comment-105</link>
		<dc:creator>auctionSA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 13:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>people never understand this. they think freelance means you do it &quot;after hours&quot;
fools!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>people never understand this. they think freelance means you do it &#8220;after hours&#8221;<br />
fools!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Hubbub about &#8220;Community Managers&#8221; &#8212; What&#8217;s Missing by Steve Magruder</title>
		<link>http://www.webcommons.biz/2008/11/23/the-hubbub-about-community-managers-whats-missing/comment-page-1/#comment-88</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Magruder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 17:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of the articles I will write here are based on my own development experience. If your experience is different, please feel free to counter what I’ve said. This is an open discussion space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of the articles I will write here are based on my own development experience. If your experience is different, please feel free to counter what I’ve said. This is an open discussion space.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Registration no longer required before commenting by Steve Magruder</title>
		<link>http://www.webcommons.biz/2009/01/13/registration-no-longer-required-before-commenting/comment-page-1/#comment-87</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Magruder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 17:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand your position.  Since people aren&#039;t required to register, what&#039;s the harm in letting people register if they choose to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand your position.  Since people aren&#8217;t required to register, what&#8217;s the harm in letting people register if they choose to?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Registration no longer required before commenting by eskimo</title>
		<link>http://www.webcommons.biz/2009/01/13/registration-no-longer-required-before-commenting/comment-page-1/#comment-83</link>
		<dc:creator>eskimo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 08:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if your site is well moderated and you check for spam comments, then its a good idea to turn registration off. if you only check your site once in a while, keep it on otherwise you gonna get spammed to hell. can&#039;t you have a captcha for comments, to stop automated comments? nice blog tho, keep it up :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if your site is well moderated and you check for spam comments, then its a good idea to turn registration off. if you only check your site once in a while, keep it on otherwise you gonna get spammed to hell. can&#8217;t you have a captcha for comments, to stop automated comments? nice blog tho, keep it up <img src='http://www.webcommons.biz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on The Hubbub about &#8220;Community Managers&#8221; &#8212; What&#8217;s Missing by NYC Directory</title>
		<link>http://www.webcommons.biz/2008/11/23/the-hubbub-about-community-managers-whats-missing/comment-page-1/#comment-65</link>
		<dc:creator>NYC Directory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 11:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic. care to share your sources :) ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic. care to share your sources <img src='http://www.webcommons.biz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  ?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Registration no longer required before commenting by crystalbit</title>
		<link>http://www.webcommons.biz/2009/01/13/registration-no-longer-required-before-commenting/comment-page-1/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>crystalbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did the same on my blog=) It allows people to leave a comment, a good comment without any difficulties
good luck =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did the same on my blog=) It allows people to leave a comment, a good comment without any difficulties<br />
good luck =)</p>
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		<title>Comment on The all-in-one WebCommons site has finally arrived. What do you think? by matt :)</title>
		<link>http://www.webcommons.biz/2009/03/20/the-all-in-one-webcommons-site-has-finally-arrived-what-do-you-think/comment-page-1/#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>matt :)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i like it mr stevie, i&#039;m glad it&#039;s green and i like the navigation ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i like it mr stevie, i&#8217;m glad it&#8217;s green and i like the navigation <img src='http://www.webcommons.biz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Under Reconstruction: Moving all WebCommons business website pages into WordPress by WebCommons :: Web Programming Services » The new WebCommons contact form</title>
		<link>http://www.webcommons.biz/2009/01/13/under-reconstruction-moving-all-webcommons-business-website-pages-into-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>WebCommons :: Web Programming Services » The new WebCommons contact form</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 23:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] part of the ongoing WebCommons site merger, I developed a new contact form.Â  I realize that this kind of development naturally doesn&#8217;t [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] part of the ongoing WebCommons site merger, I developed a new contact form.Â  I realize that this kind of development naturally doesn&#8217;t [...]</p>
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